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Post time 2018-3-5 04:07 | Show all posts

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It's not about wishes in this topic, it's about improving the game. And whoever wants to build up his crew from the very beginning these days, is put into quite unfavorable conditions. With ineffective crews and weaker ships, they become helpless in battle, and even unwanted as teammates, feeling unwelcome in game in general. Doesn't help staying long here.
HA and HD are the last fortress still fighting to keep the game alive. But this fortress needs reinforcements too. I don't know, - how many new members enlisted in different fleets since summer? Is it as many, as was a year ago? Are requirements for recruits still the same - to have at least a BB\CV-6, or 2-3 BB\CV-5, something like that, or do they now accept lower levels? The point is, less new members = weaker fleets = weaker HA\HD activity = last fortress falls...And it seems to me, the fleets do receive less recruits now.
So, support of growing players is not about someone's wishes, not about even their own wishes, it's about rescuing the game. If a player is unwelcome with game, he'll just go play something else, but if the game is unwelcome with players...
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Post time 2018-3-5 04:08 | Show all posts

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Karesma was quite emotional, but what he says is true. For the past year, I've started to play myself, and tried to bring my old fleetmates from former RU server here. Experienced motivated players. They quit soon after the trade was closed, can't blame them.Admins stated they would do something better (than trade system) to support the growing players. It did not work, obviously.As for me now, just 2 screenshots. 125 lvl - typical veteran's sailor, posted here before. 105 lvl - my typical sailor. See and compare them, compare running events listed...Guess enough for now.  And, no smokes, prem-HHs and so on. For example, a set of boosts (premium sailors) is about my monthly income. Item drops? No luck with that.Even if someone like me buys some experts, one may well guess how many of these he would need for 400+ vets, without all those vet conversion events they used to have before.Reward rates are not so high, and players are not so many now. The less powerful the ship and crew are, the harder it is to just shoot something, making rewards even less. The kill-all-leave-nothing tactics of all those veteran players doesn't help, too. Sometimes, though rarely, I notice some super-duper teammate BB 6,5 just go by my side and let me finish whatever remains. Or maybe they just forget to play, or run out of ammo, or I imagine things, but if they do try to help so - great respect to such guys! That's newbie's support in action, not just words.
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I agree with you on the "kill-all-leave-nothing" comment.  Some players are not very friendly in this game.  However, I disagree with you on your screen shot.  Those are not "125 lvl - typical veteran's sailor."  Those sailors are very rare (50% vet on an Eng of special Santa/NF sailor).  I seldom hear players have sailors like that.  The player likely posted it to show what he/she had (thier pride; I do not blame them because they had spent the time and money to earn those sailors).  Also, most ship and sailor abilities are capped.  There is no difference in abilities after that point, if you are familiar with this game.  Yes, the BB6, BB6.5, and BB7 create an imbalance in GB.  Other than that, once you have BB4 and above, you should be able to compete. 
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Post time 2018-3-8 14:44 | Show all posts

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I agree with you on the "kill-all-leave-nothing" comment.  Some players are not very friendly in this game.  However, I disagree with you on your screen shot.  Those are not "125 lvl - typical veteran's sailor."  Those sailors are very rare (50% vet on an Eng of special Santa/NF sailor).  I seldom hear players have sailors like that.  The player likely posted it to show what he/she had (thier pride; I do not blame them because they had spent the time and money to earn those sailors).[/QUOTE]
I could not say how much time, or money, or both, it took a certain player to get his sailors, it may vary dramatically. I only know there used to be events and drops which helped a lot, and that such events either do not occur these days, or there are competitive events, in which veteran players will win, hardly will beginners.The screenshot is not for blame, of course, just an illustration. Santa sailors may be rare, but most players have super-elites or better, more or less high leveled, boosted, vetted and experted.And this is something a beginner cannot possibly get without donating!About a year ago, as I was starting here, it was different. +800% convertation (not fake), +300% reward - every weekend. Prem sailors, smokes, mines, even ships - dropping, at times. I received almost nothing, but the chance there was. Some useful items were available for medals. Without donation, one could get (with time, for medals) a 115 lvl neutral sailor, for instance. Without donation, one could slowly accimulate experts and some day roll up to 150-160 vets on weekends. Or maybe more, but that was my maximum with my first sailors. And the time one would spend for all this, to others means one more BB, or CV, or SS, or something, to help fill those valuable battle rooms we all come to see in game. For months ahead, continually.But not anymore. No more many items at Medal store (changed to Olives store). No more regular boosts and drops. The 40 vets I managed to scrub together on a Restorer, will now die without notice, so I either could not save them, or would have to crash every battle just in case (thus no progress). Welcome to build up your crew, what can I say...
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Also, most ship and sailor abilities are capped.  There is no difference in abilities after that point, if you are familiar with this game.  Yes, the BB6, BB6.5, and BB7 create an imbalance in GB.  Other than that, once you have BB4 and above, you should be able to compete. 
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I hope me and Kareshma have written enough to not get such comments, but that depends on who reads already...No BB works properly without good sailors! Well I do have a BB-4 Richelieu. Runs 39 kts, 70 HP\sec repairs, 80 sec overheat, gunners make 2 salvos while other players make 3. Not even has 900 SD I guess some people just need to have such ships themselves and try to "be competitive" for months with them to understand.I know that people used to pass levelling period themselves years ago, they had to struggle too, and so on...But nowadays it's not like most players have "low-end sailors", and only sometimes appears a 120+ lvl one in a battle. Nowadays, it's everyone 120+ and sometimes a "low-ender" among all of them. Makes a difference, and the less people (admins, and players) understand it and actually do something to help it, the more chance they will lose all those potential partners, whom they even prevent from becoming something worth to see ib GB or HA\HD themselves.
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Post time 2018-3-8 16:10 | Show all posts

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heyho!
 
icegriffon, you are completely right!
1000% !!
 
i copy&paste my posting in other thread a week ago,becasue it fits here very well i think to enlighten the problem we have in NF, especially 2nd half
"heyho!
every high-EXP event is a nail more in the coffin!
maybe 200%, thats far enough, but NEVER more!
And then increase credits AND points, too!
nowadays,without trade system , you get your tier5 or 6 crew quite fast. but how long does it last to get the credits&points for the ships?
and the points for the veterans???
annoying, isnt it? collecting medals is the faster way to (E)BB6 !
any "newbie" will give up frustrated after some weeks...
and the veterans laugh and level their next-generation-supa-dupa crews faster and faster...sitting on their useless millions creds/points
other important point never read here:
dont forget the "non-paying-players"
in short sight they dont pay, no profit is generated. but they are the "player-masses" needed to fill the rooms !
no players = no paying players at all!
if you play now and dont buy olives for experts, you have no chance  to be competitive by far.
effect: stop playing now...playing sometimes - but stop leveling!
with trade there would be a chance to do something , but without - game over!
last years some experts gain in events had been possible when playing enough/lottery etc. nowadays its a joke (last event: 20 experts in 100 battles...hahaha)
-> non-paying players leave-> no player base-> less paying players->less profit
 
for me, i am such a non paying player. i stopped leveling completely.
i have credits and points for several tier6 in HQ, but no more experts...so its useless for me to level anything.
some single battles, some HA, thats all.
 
maybe a single olive for every 2nd win per day (not the first!)  or something like that would change a lot. the medal for logging-in is a joke
login, medal, logout ...sorry guys, that generates no playing..."
 
greetings
katzerich
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