Official Annoucement from Flota Chile after tonight HD against ZGL

mcandrew

los jugadores chinos en lo que sea usan trampas, son los mas tramposos en video juegos a nivel mundial, que mas vamos a esperar, son una mierda ... baneenme me da lo mismo ya no jugare mas su mierda de juego les regalo mis bb6 murio este juego. volvi solo por nostalgia pero desde que compraron los chinos el juego cago saludos  pudranse chinos reculiaos yo voy a warzone saludos

TSKSpree

ainlesskiss]
hessCN]
RRS]
Ensima that they have BB7 / CV / 7/8 even the balls are given the tupe to use border jumper? They are broken faces but this is encouraged by the same TNF that does nothing, the GMS are the culprits not the fleet ... since they do not take any action against them!
 
That is why they are Asian, a Vinnson who only bans you from Discord if you tell him the truth! What cause they have to play a game and make money with MSG mediocre and Asian cheats !!!!!!!!
[/QUOTE]Keep your racial rants to yourself (take this as a warning!). Your comment is in no way helping the OP here.Anyone playing HA knows which fleet uses skytrain border jumps all the time. I'm not in a position to point fingers...But you are either here just to trash this post and making TNF disgusted or simply "forgetting" some facts.
[/QUOTE]The rules are always strict for European, American or Latin players (expect some cheater Latin players)We have recorded videos  proving that some fleets are cheating in HA so what did you guys do against it? Nothing. Why are Chinese players ignored when such forbidden things are done? (Border humping & skytrains etc) oh wait  is it because we're on the Chinese server? 
[/QUOTE]The opposite comments show up on the Chinese forum. This is called bias. It is not surprising with information assymetry, especially when there are two forums with two completely different player base for no good reason.

kmr44

@Tskspree
Recently i experienced cheating from 2 fleets - one chinese (outside border skytrains), and one non-chinese (APA border bug+outside border skytrains). Honestly i dont see much difference between those 2 fleets, except most members of non chinese fleets are in official NF discord and they trashtalked about their cheating there. Both fleet werent punished - I dont see any bias. You see any?
 

Sidumbledore

hessCN]
uadrad]
SKSpree]
Can you share a video link?
[/QUOTE]The only stream we have for the moment is this one, unfortunatly we were focusing in the enemy rush south, of course this airdrop attack catch us suddenly, no sound of skytrains was reported during the entire battle, even with our CV players taking periodic surveillance in the borders. They came out of A1 and with one singular drop, won the battle.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/739504099?sr=a&t=5266s
[/QUOTE]Looking into it.
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We have many screenshots and videos of this type of exploits for some time.  If you want evidence, we can provide it.  We even sent in support tickets (yet to be answered).  As long as GM and kupaisky officials do not act, they will keep doing it.  All we have asked is for the GM and kupasiky to post an official announement to warn this type of behaviors with the possibility of punishment of banning an account or a fleet.  Unless that happens, some fleets will continue to do that.  Vinnson has said that he would investigate and some of us already sent him information.  However, nothing has happened so far.
Yes, we need to be careful here.  This has nothing to do with race, culture, and nationality.  It is the problem of the individuals (or a group of individuals).  We all know that there are always good and bad people somewhere.

Sidumbledore

hessCN]
uadrad]
SKSpree]
Can you share a video link?
[/QUOTE]The only stream we have for the moment is this one, unfortunatly we were focusing in the enemy rush south, of course this airdrop attack catch us suddenly, no sound of skytrains was reported during the entire battle, even with our CV players taking periodic surveillance in the borders. They came out of A1 and with one singular drop, won the battle.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/739504099?sr=a&t=5266s
[/QUOTE]Looking into it.
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We have many screenshots and videos of this type of exploits for some time.  If you want evidence, we can provide it.  We even sent in support tickets (yet to be answered).  As long as GM and kupaisky officials do not act, they will keep doing it.  All we have asked is for the GM and kupasiky to post an official announement to warn this type of behaviors with the possibility of punishment of banning an account or a fleet.  Unless this happens, some fleets (or players) will continue to do that.  Vinnson has said that he would investigate and some of us sent him information.  That was more than a few months ago.  However, nothing has happened so far.
Yes, we need to be careful here.  This has nothing to do with race, culture, and nationality.  It is the problem of the individuals (or a group of individuals).  We all know that there are always good and bad people somewhere.

katzchen2803

ainlesskiss]
 
The rules are always strict for European, American or Latin players (expect some cheater Latin players)We have recorded videos  proving that some fleets are cheating in HA so what did you guys do against it? Nothing. Why are Chinese players ignored when such forbidden things are done? (Border humping & skytrains etc) oh wait is it because we're on the Chinese server? 
[/QUOTE]
estofchill]
hessCN]
RRS]
Ensima that they have BB7 / CV / 7/8 even the balls are given the tupe to use border jumper? They are broken faces but this is encouraged by the same TNF that does nothing, the GMS are the culprits not the fleet ... since they do not take any action against them!
 
That is why they are Asian, a Vinnson who only bans you from Discord if you tell him the truth! What cause they have to play a game and make money with MSG mediocre and Asian cheats !!!!!!!!
[/QUOTE]Keep your racial rants to yourself (take this as a warning!). Your comment is in no way helping the OP here.Anyone playing HA knows which fleet uses skytrain border jumps all the time. I'm not in a position to point fingers...But you are either here just to trash this post and making TNF disgusted or simply "forgetting" some facts.
[/QUOTE]APA BUG, SKytrains,Ammo bug, desyc.....HArbour Assaults are  bugged as fuck since mouth/year´s....and nothing [email protected] you can´t understand why so many guys angry???
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True Words! But you, Urrrs and bestofchill had forgotten LAAAGS. Sometimes isnt playable....a lot of old NFEU and NFNA Players returns in last month, after 2-3 days they all runs away by this shit....So TNF stop talking about fairness and do your job!  Most not fairness are to take money of the players and do nothing for it. Most Racism is to write informations into Chinese Chat and DONT do it here too.... Most rascim is it, to make a lot of nice events at Chinese Website like  "VIP Daily Mission" and do it here for european and american NOT! We should buy premium or other things? DO YOUR JOB!

chessCN

atzchen2803]
......Most rascim is it, to make a lot of nice events at Chinese Website like  "VIP Daily Mission" and do it here for european and american NOT! We should buy premium or other things? DO YOUR JOB!
[/QUOTE]Ummm... so if you ever truly read the forum, it's not hard to find a section listed as the "event" sub-forum: There are 4 or 5 posts, the top post has listed the events in ENGLISH! VIP Daily Mission is clearly listed there.The fact that we also hear some Chinese players crying out loud that this info was not mentioned on the Chinese forum is also mind-boggling.That's why we always encourage players to READ THE FORUMS!

chessCN

ainlesskiss]
The rules are always strict for European, American or Latin players (expect some cheater Latin players)We have recorded videos  proving that some fleets are cheating in HA so what did you guys do against it? Nothing. Why are Chinese players ignored when such forbidden things are done? (Border humping & skytrains etc) oh wait  is it because we're on the Chinese server? 
[/QUOTE]Let me just take off the TNF hat and put on the multicultral Canadian hat for a sec."The rules are always strict for EU AM and LatAM players..." --- true! but read on...What is also true? "Rules are always strict for non-EU, non-AM and non-LatAM players too", which includes ppl in Austrilia & New Zealand, African, Asian, Middle East players too .........If you think TNF is not being fair, please prove to me that TNF has not enforced server rules fairly. For example, when I scroll down the Ban List, I can't find clear indication we are favoring Chinese players. But just to be clear, the hate on the Chinese player base is more observable here and on discord. (I can find evidence just by reading this thread.) [and hating on MSG? this is the most absurd NYC racial rant I could recall since the 1960s...] haters always be hating...However I hear and feel those players who accuse TNF has not been resolving issues quickly (quickness imho is qualitative, and we all have different standards). A vet player on the Kupai forum posted a thread titled as "thankful and enjoying the game", in which he explained the game history and analyzed the current situation regarding his server traffic survey, P&L estimation (Profit/Loss), and the TNF efficiency on bug solution & data retrivals. If everyone takes 5 mins, while waiting in GB rooms or HA preping session, to think about that, it would make a lot sense to all these complaints. And people would rather complain less and tend to actively seek constructive suggestions to TNF. (I, for one, vote for map rotations... but that's not the top priority for some) Regarding dealing with HA bug or unfair plays, TNF is always trying to reolve the issues by fixing on the development side. And it's true that TNF is having many challenges to apply fixes given the issues were resulted from generations of prior managements and developers. Anyone in the programming industry would understand how difficult it is to debug codes with fragmented comments in multiple languages. (this game has a small dev and GM team as any veteran should have noticed by now, i don't think this is a secret any more). It is okay to accuse TNF and say devs could make it faster and faster, but saying that they had never tried is .... not worthy of my time to debate.Let's just take a lay-back atittude on this legacy game okay? Enjoy it while we still can. I believe anyone, who sent tickets and complaining left and right, are still luvin' this nostalgic game. Now, putting on the bi-lingual TNF hat:I would recommmed people to at least try to read on the Chinese forum (use Chrome's auto-translate. welcome to the 21st century!). That way, you would understand how strict the TNF is enforcing the SAME rules and standards, dispite nationality or race. Misinformation and echo-chamber are the best methods to spread rumors. It's never a bad idea to step out of your comfort zones...(for an example of mis-information and echo-chamber, look no further than the post I replied to the one above.... finding a comfortable spot in the echo-chamber and jumping on the racial bandwagon is always too easy with Internet these days... to read and think critically, I found, is harder and much needed)

mcandrew

[QUOTE = chessCN]
[QUOTE = painlesskiss]
Las reglas son siempre estrictas para los jugadores europeos, estadounidenses o latinos (espere algunos jugadores latinos tramposos). Hemos grabado videos que muestran que algunas flotas están haciendo trampa en HA, así que, ¿qué hicieron ustedes contra eso? Nada. &iquestor qué se ignora a los jugadores chinos cuando se hacen cosas tan prohibidas? (Border humping & skytrains, etc.) oh, espera, ¿es porque estamos en el servidor chino? 
[/ QUOTE] Permítanme quitarme el sombrero TNF y ponerme el sombrero canadiense multicultral por un segundo. "Las reglas son siempre estrictas para los jugadores de EU AM y LatAM ..." --- ¡cierto! pero sigue leyendo ... ¿Qué es también cierto? "Las reglas son siempre estricta de fuera de la UE, no AM y los jugadores no Latam también", que incluye el ppl en Austrilia y Nueva Zelanda, África, Asia, Oriente Medio jugadores demasiado ......... Si usted piensa que TNF no está siendo justo, por favor demuéstreme que TNF no ha hecho cumplir las reglas del servidor de manera justa. .Por ejemplo, cuando me desplazo hacia abajo en la Lista de prohibiciones, no encuentro una indicación clara de que estemos favoreciendo a los jugadores chinos. Pero para ser claros, el odio hacia la base de jugadores chinos es más observable aquí y en la discordia. (Puedo encontrar pruebas con solo leer este hilo). [¿Y odia MSG? esta es la perorata racial más absurda de Nueva York que pude recordar desde la década de 1960 ... los que odian siempre odian ... Sin embargo, escucho y siento que los jugadores que acusan a TNF no han estado resolviendo problemas rápidamente (la rapidez en mi humilde opinión es cualitativa, y todos tenemos diferentes estándares).Un jugador veterano en el foro de Kupai publicó un hilo titulado "Agradecido y disfrutando del juego", en el que descrito el historial del juego y analizó la situación actual con respecto a su encuesta de tráfico del servidor, estimación de pérdidas y ganancias / pérdidas) y la eficiencia de TNF. sobre solución de errores y recuperación de datos. Si todos se toman 5 minutos, mientras esperan en las salas de GB o en la sesión de preparación de HA, para pensar en eso, debería tener mucho sentido para todas estas quejas. Y la gente prefiere quejarse menos y tiende a buscar activamente sugerencias constructivas para TNF. (Yo, por mi parte, voto por las rotaciones de mapas ... pero esa no es la principal prioridad para algunos) Con respecto a lidiar con errores de HA o jugadas injustas, TNF siempre está tratando de resolver los problemas arreglando el lado del desarrollo. Y es cierto que TNF está teniendo muchos desafíos para aplicar correcciones, dado que los problemas fueron el resultado de generaciones de gerentes y desarrolladores anteriores. Cualquiera en la industria de la programación entendería lo difícil que es depurar códigos con comentarios fragmentados en varios idiomas. (Este juego tiene un pequeño equipo de desarrollo y GM, como cualquier veterano debería haber notado a estas alturas, ya no creo que esto sea un secreto). Está bien acusar a TNF y decir que los desarrolló podrían hacerlo cada vez más rápido, pero decir que nunca lo he intentado ... no es digno de mi tiempo para debatir.Tomemos una actitud relajada en este juego heredado, ¿de acuerdo? Disfrútalo mientras podamos. Creo que cualquiera, que envió boletos y se quejó a diestra y siniestra, todavía está disfrutando este nostálgico juego. Ahora, poniéndose el sombrero TNF bilingüe: recomendaría a la gente que al menos intente leer en el foro chino (use la traducción automática de Chrome. ¡Bienvenidos al siglo XXI!). De esa manera, comprenderá cuán estricto está el TNF haciendo cumplir las MISMAS reglas y estándares, a pesar de la nacionalidad o la raza. La desinformación y la cámara de eco son los mejores métodos para difundir rumores. Nunca es mala idea salir de tu zona de confort ...(para un ejemplo de información errónea y cámara de eco, no busque más allá de la publicación que respondí a la anterior ... encontrar un lugar cómodo en la cámara de eco y subirse al carro racial siempre es demasiado fácil con Internet en estos días ... leer y pensar críticamente, encontré, es más difícil y muy necesario)
[/ CITAR]pura mierda leer tanto para justificar lo tramposo que son los chinos en todo..expertos en encontrar bugs o algo donde aprovechar y sacar ventaja en juegos, son los trampsos nunero 1 en los games, cod, batllefield y obiamente no podia quedar ahora navysaludosque pena que los gringon solataran este lindo juego

Cnidarian

I come back to the game years after i stopped playing and chinese still cheating??? i'm chinese myself and they were still cheating before NF was transfered/sold to a different company and HA bug still not fixed? why people play this game in 2020???? chinese players (NOT ALL) will cheat the same goes for NON CHINESE too but it's only a select few if they won't fix the game or do anything about it stop spending money and find a new game watch how eventually they fix things...