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[Discuss] Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 19:25

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

anitarium]regarding the dp gunners i am not sure how much the reload should be when you will class them to dp gunners. What i did is left them as arm. sailors all the way up to lvl 89 (yamato level). The reasson is that before yamato the other bbs dont have good space for aa (the exception here would be the Premium BB but that one sucks big time. Dont bother getting one if you ask me). You could also class them at late 60s level if you want they will not be bad at all. What you need to look at is the reload stat when you are rolling for new ones. The reload growth you should aim for should be 11+ or 12+. The aaw is not really activated if i am correct (the rest of you reading correct me if i am wrong). Best option if you have the olives is to buy a pair of elite reload gunners.As far as the engs and reps you should definetely roll some more. Keep in mind that for bb6 you need 14 sailors to be able to drive it ( bo gunners at lvl 120 and the rest lvl 115). So its better to get prepared and start rotating your sailors so they all stay near the same level. And yea the growth should be for engs +12 same as for reps. If you are lucky and you find some with 11+ rep 10+ rest and 12+ eng it would be great as they will add repair ability along with being engines.By the way completly off topic. If IJN is your first nation you will get frustrated pretty soon. The ships are made out of paper. You will have to get used to the time the shells on the air (around 5-7 secs so you will to predict where the ship will when they land). Most people will tell you that is a hard grind to bb6 (KM being the hardest and then IJN).  The only thing i could advice you is suck it up man and play. BB1 sucks big time but with bb2 (Fuso) you can make some good games when you are lucky. BB3 is much better and from then on bb4 -bb5 are awesome ships. Just go through some tactics in this forum and you will be fine.Also, you might want to start a second nation (find one with good aa -KM has some of the best ship-platforms for this as well as some US and MN ships do) and lvl up a pair of aa gunners so you can lvl up your supports. You should always have your main gunners ahead of your bo lvl and the supports if not at the same lvl then close by. Dont get a restorer its a waste of money.If you need anything else you can send me a pm.PS> if you are on Nebby and you are low on credits points msg me to give you some.[/QUOTE]I can never create sailors with growth which is +12,the maximum I got is +11...Yea IJN is my first nation and when I had the Kagero it was terrible,I couldn't survive even 2 minutes in a battle but the Tatsuda is way better,I can survive pretty well and destroy some ships buy torps and cannons so I am not frustrated now as I was with the Kagero.I don't understand,why should I choose a second nation,how will it help me?
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 20:23

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

The reason i mentioned the second nation is in order to help your self in the leveling of the new sailors. The problem you are facing as an IJN player is that you can not have a ship which will help you with the training of the new sailors. Most people play aa ships (in gb) with high level aa gunners and the rest support / pilots (on support slots). The reason behind this is the easist and most effective way to level up. You will get lots of credits from shooting down aircrafts and the exp is pretty good. As IJN you face the problem of the DP gunners which you will have to keep them as arm sailors until late. You could use torpedo boats and try to hunt SS with Hedgehogs (hedgehogs are pretty expensive though and it is not worth it unless you are buying the premium ones), also the exp from this weapons is shared between everyone, so you will be getting lower exp. Anyway this is just a suggestion you could follow or you could just forget about it.Regarding the +12 sailors you are trying to get now it will cost you a lot of points until you find a +12 one. It is difficult to get them with the current system of rolling and you have to be carefull not to pass one by accident. +11 sailors are not bad either if you decide to go with them. But if you do go with +11 try to find some 11/11 rep/eng or similar.Try not to waste all of your points. You will need them when you will be trading. I am not sure how many points/credits you need to have in order to be able to trade. Check it out with someone else. Also if you ask around some players i am sure you will be able to find some nice people that will be willing to help you out with that. If not you could lvl some sailors up to lvl 12 and sell them. +12 engs go for 300k easy as neutrals. Same applies for the rest of sailors if they are +12. Gunners with +12/+11 Acc/Rel could  be sold for up to 1mil maybe more.Have fun playing
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 21:21

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

anitarium]The reason i mentioned the second nation is in order to help your self in the leveling of the new sailors. The problem you are facing as an IJN player is that you can not have a ship which will help you with the training of the new sailors. Most people play aa ships (in gb) with high level aa gunners and the rest support / pilots (on support slots). The reason behind this is the easist and most effective way to level up. You will get lots of credits from shooting down aircrafts and the exp is pretty good. As IJN you face the problem of the DP gunners which you will have to keep them as arm sailors until late. You could use torpedo boats and try to hunt SS with Hedgehogs (hedgehogs are pretty expensive though and it is not worth it unless you are buying the premium ones), also the exp from this weapons is shared between everyone, so you will be getting lower exp. Anyway this is just a suggestion you could follow or you could just forget about it.Regarding the +12 sailors you are trying to get now it will cost you a lot of points until you find a +12 one. It is difficult to get them with the current system of rolling and you have to be carefull not to pass one by accident. +11 sailors are not bad either if you decide to go with them. But if you do go with +11 try to find some 11/11 rep/eng or similar.Try not to waste all of your points. You will need them when you will be trading. I am not sure how many points/credits you need to have in order to be able to trade. Check it out with someone else. Also if you ask around some players i am sure you will be able to find some nice people that will be willing to help you out with that. If not you could lvl some sailors up to lvl 12 and sell them. +12 engs go for 300k easy as neutrals. Same applies for the rest of sailors if they are +12. Gunners with +12/+11 Acc/Rel could  be sold for up to 1mil maybe more.Have fun playing[/QUOTE]If I need new sailors for my Japanese BB (that hopefully I'll get there) then I don't need to choose a second nation,do I? Because I can't combine KM Sailors and IJN Sailors on a ship.Okay I'll keep trying to get a +12 sailor.Wow if I get lucky,I will be able to get rich by selling those kind of sailors. Thanks.
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 21:37

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

As far as the second nation as i said it is up to you. As already mentioned the only reason i mentioned the second nation is for you to lvl up easier and faster. If you have support sailors that are not the same lvl this will create problems for you later on. For example if you combine a lvl 50 eng with 3 lvl 80 ones then firtsly your overheat will drop down a lot and secondly you will a have a problem with the exp they will be gaining. as mentioned earlier is best if you have all your sailors on a plus/minus of 8 lvl from the lvl of your ship.You can combine ijn and km sailors on a IJN boat but they will nto be able to work any kind of guns nor would they add as much of SD (soft defence) as a IJN sailor would do. You dont have to start a new nation if you dont want to. However if you start now (you must be around lvl 30 if i am correct) leveling up the new sailors until they reach the lvl of your existing support sailors your BO will be around 10 lvls higher from what he is now. Thus creating you a problem with the exp gain as your bo will be in a ca with support sailors of dd lvl.Anyhow, you can do what you believe is best for you. After all its just a game so enjoy it.
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 22:01

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

anitarium]As far as the second nation as i said it is up to you. As already mentioned the only reason i mentioned the second nation is for you to lvl up easier and faster. If you have support sailors that are not the same lvl this will create problems for you later on. For example if you combine a lvl 50 eng with 3 lvl 80 ones then firtsly your overheat will drop down a lot and secondly you will a have a problem with the exp they will be gaining. as mentioned earlier is best if you have all your sailors on a plus/minus of 8 lvl from the lvl of your ship.You can combine ijn and km sailors on a IJN boat but they will nto be able to work any kind of guns nor would they add as much of SD (soft defence) as a IJN sailor would do. You dont have to start a new nation if you dont want to. However if you start now (you must be around lvl 30 if i am correct) leveling up the new sailors until they reach the lvl of your existing support sailors your BO will be around 10 lvls higher from what he is now. Thus creating you a problem with the exp gain as your bo will be in a ca with support sailors of dd lvl.Anyhow, you can do what you believe is best for you. After all its just a game so enjoy it. [/QUOTE]I can get a new Operator which I will play with by trading a level 1 Operator from another account to my main account and then buying a FF in the Neutral ship yard and when the Support Sailors and the operator will get to level 12 I will level them up with the cheapest Japanese ship there is till they get to about level 18 and then I'll put them on my Tatsuda while my original sailors will be resting in my sailors list.I think it's smart to do so,what do you think?
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 22:15

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

go for it. Just keep in mind you will need to rotate your sailors so they stay round about the same level. You could however raise a second bo so when your sailors drob behind the main BO you can level them up with the second one. They will eventually fall behind from your bo and gunners because bo and gunners gain 120% exp whereas the rest of the sailors only get 100% exp.Anyway am leaving from work now so enjoy the game and have fun.
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 22:25

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

anitarium]go for it. Just keep in mind you will need to rotate your sailors so they stay round about the same level. You could however raise a second bo so when your sailors drob behind the main BO you can level them up with the second one. They will eventually fall behind from your bo and gunners because bo and gunners gain 120% exp whereas the rest of the sailors only get 100% exp.Anyway am leaving from work now so enjoy the game and have fun.[/QUOTE]I won't use my main BO,I will only use my second BO for my new Support Sailors I will create.Or listen,because of the fact that I need 2 more Repair sailors and 4 more Engine sailors,I won't use an Operator,I will just put an Engine sailor at the position of the operator so I could level the Engineers and Repairers I need, faster,what do you think?And thanks for all of your help! I appreciate it!
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 22:56

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

you could do that obviously. And it will help you to get all sailors at the same level fast. Donot forget though to class them as soon as possible since you dont want to loose any ability points.Second thing: As i said earlier your support will eventually fall behind from your bo. For example when your bo is lvl 70 your support they will be around level 60+. This will happen regardless of what you do because bo gets 120% exp per game and supports 100% per game. Easy sollution a second bo or a second nation only for training purposes. Or you could get the PBB (premium bb) or PCA and put one of your support on their as BO. This is only allowed with premium and event ships. However the IJN PBB sucks big time at lvl and the CA is okish. However you can not use aa for training as i already mentioned you need to keep your future dp guns classed as arm. sailors until late.Good luck with the game and have fun.P.S. any time bro if you need any further info just p.m.
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anonymous  Post time 2012-3-2 23:16

Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

anitarium]you could do that obviously. And it will help you to get all sailors at the same level fast. Donot forget though to class them as soon as possible since you dont want to loose any ability points.Second thing: As i said earlier your support will eventually fall behind from your bo. For example when your bo is lvl 70 your support they will be around level 60+. This will happen regardless of what you do because bo gets 120% exp per game and supports 100% per game. Easy sollution a second bo or a second nation only for training purposes. Or you could get the PBB (premium bb) or PCA and put one of your support on their as BO. This is only allowed with premium and event ships. However the IJN PBB sucks big time at lvl and the CA is okish. However you can not use aa for training as i already mentioned you need to keep your future dp guns classed as arm. sailors until late.Good luck with the game and have fun.P.S. any time bro if you need any further info just p.m.[/QUOTE]Every one will be approximately at the same level with the same EXP because every time I will replace the crew which is on the ship and off the ship,I need 4 Engineers and 2 Repairers,so it's 6 sailors,a Frigate contains 4 slots,so I will always replace the sailors when they will have more exp than the others and I will continue so,I hope you understood what I meant.
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Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

So, to point out a few things: 1-you will need to either rotate or get another nation to level up your Support sailors faster. KM is a pretty awesome nation with the Emdem, and MN is really good too because they have a clone of the emdem, The difference lays in range and damage, MN has better range, KM has better damage. 2- If you are in Kaiser and need some credits or points you can Message me if I am logged in. I think you will need at least 50k Credits and 50K points to be able to trade.3- If you have some good torpedo man,don't throw them away, save them for later since IJN has the best SS against BBs and CVs (8 front torps of death at SS4 stage LoL). But worry about this later on. if you have any questions regarding KM you can ask me or visit the forums. And welcome to IJN.
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