Maintenance, can we talk about a couple of things...

babyheart

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i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Then SS would come on surface pop smoke and go underwater again for another 2 minutes plus. Then CV can just run bombers since won't have any fighters and aa anymore. Yea sure sounds like a good plan to mess the game up even more. 

Dario1971

abyheart]
ario1971]
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i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Then SS would come on surface pop smoke and go underwater again for another 2 minutes plus. Then CV can just run bombers since won't have any fighters and aa anymore. Yea sure sounds like a good plan to mess the game up even more. 
[/QUOTE]then we agree in let the things like are now, not smoke limitation and not remove escorts, isn't it?

AC16051

phh just needed to be nerf to reduce effect on surfaced ships...thats all...n phh on moltke is just another skill..not many player can do that wth a moltke vs bbs unless the bb he attck is noob or his/her team doesnt give a dam whts going on in their team..    remove escort and aa???wht r u 6??the only thing relevent here in my opinion is 2 times limit smoking game or atleast 4min reload time

babyheart

ario1971]
abyheart]
ario1971]
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i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Then SS would come on surface pop smoke and go underwater again for another 2 minutes plus. Then CV can just run bombers since won't have any fighters and aa anymore. Yea sure sounds like a good plan to mess the game up even more. 
[/QUOTE]then we agree in let the things like are now, not smoke limitation and not remove escorts, isn't it?
[/QUOTE]Don't be sensitive please. Read it again, i'm talking about SS to xqvy fella. If you agree no smoke limit then you're special kind of player... 

ewjenik

BBS CAN DEFENDS THEMSELVES WITH AA MARIO! Jesus. BBS USE AA IN REAL LIFE! What dont you understand about this? ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS ARE REAL! good god

Dario1971

wjenik]
BBS CAN DEFENDS THEMSELVES WITH AA MARIO! Jesus. BBS USE AA IN REAL LIFE! What dont you understand about this? ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS ARE REAL! good god
[/QUOTE]No, not use aa anymore because unlike the dinosaurs we use here, the modern ships use missiles for everything, so here  the escorts and smoke are necessary, and if I use aa should be to protect myself against the bombers, by the way what kind of battle you want between aa ships or between battleships? I prefer the second one, because the real skill is in defeat the others battleships even if they can see you

ErwinJA

wjenik]
BBS CAN DEFENDS THEMSELVES WITH AA MARIO! Jesus. BBS USE AA IN REAL LIFE! What dont you understand about this? ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS ARE REAL! good god
[/QUOTE]Except many bbs can't load sufficient AA to shoot down large numbers of bombers (particularly TBs). Only a handful are good for that. Furthermore, any BB that runs AA 1) can't use those crew slots for leveling other crew, 2) can't have HH to defend against subs, and 3) can't effectively AA and fight BBs simultaneously. There's quite the tradeoff involved.
 
And Dario, ewjenik's somewhat right about real life. After all, he specified BBs, which DID use AA. Of course, it should have been past tense since there are no more BBs in service. And, in real life, that AA was never adequate to stop dedicated bombing attacks without . . . escorts.

Dario1971

rwinJA]
wjenik]
BBS CAN DEFENDS THEMSELVES WITH AA MARIO! Jesus. BBS USE AA IN REAL LIFE! What dont you understand about this? ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS ARE REAL! good god
[/QUOTE]Except many bbs can't load sufficient AA to shoot down large numbers of bombers (particularly TBs). Only a handful are good for that. Furthermore, any BB that runs AA 1) can't use those crew slots for leveling other crew, 2) can't have HH to defend against subs, and 3) can't effectively AA and fight BBs simultaneously. There's quite the tradeoff involved.
 
And Dario, ewjenik's somewhat right about real life. After all, he specified BBs, which DID use AA. Of course, it should have been past tense since there are no more BBs in service. And, in real life, that AA was never adequate to stop dedicated bombing attacks without . . . escorts.
[/QUOTE]I agree in the use of aa against the bombers, but who want to show that are a skilled bb's player shouldn't use aa to shootdown scouts because a skilled bb's player can fight even if the enemy have it in their sight

Dario1971

abyheart]
ario1971]
abyheart]
ario1971]
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i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Then SS would come on surface pop smoke and go underwater again for another 2 minutes plus. Then CV can just run bombers since won't have any fighters and aa anymore. Yea sure sounds like a good plan to mess the game up even more. 
[/QUOTE]then we agree in let the things like are now, not smoke limitation and not remove escorts, isn't it?
[/QUOTE]Don't be sensitive please. Read it again, i'm talking about SS to xqvy fella. If you agree no smoke limit then you're special kind of player... 
[/QUOTE]perhaps you want to give it an unfair advantage to the bombers but I not

x_qv_y

ario1971]
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i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Your logic is terribly flawed... but i believe you've already made that more than obvious.