Maintenance, can we talk about a couple of things...

ErwinJA

wjenik]
BBS CAN DEFENDS THEMSELVES WITH AA MARIO! Jesus. BBS USE AA IN REAL LIFE! What dont you understand about this? ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS ARE REAL! good god
[/QUOTE]Except many bbs can't load sufficient AA to shoot down large numbers of bombers (particularly TBs). Only a handful are good for that. Furthermore, any BB that runs AA 1) can't use those crew slots for leveling other crew, 2) can't have HH to defend against subs, and 3) can't effectively AA and fight BBs simultaneously. There's quite the tradeoff involved.
 
And Dario, ewjenik's somewhat right about real life. After all, he specified BBs, which DID use AA. Of course, it should have been past tense since there are no more BBs in service. And, in real life, that AA was never adequate to stop dedicated bombing attacks without . . . escorts.

Dario1971

rwinJA]
wjenik]
BBS CAN DEFENDS THEMSELVES WITH AA MARIO! Jesus. BBS USE AA IN REAL LIFE! What dont you understand about this? ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS ARE REAL! good god
[/QUOTE]Except many bbs can't load sufficient AA to shoot down large numbers of bombers (particularly TBs). Only a handful are good for that. Furthermore, any BB that runs AA 1) can't use those crew slots for leveling other crew, 2) can't have HH to defend against subs, and 3) can't effectively AA and fight BBs simultaneously. There's quite the tradeoff involved.
 
And Dario, ewjenik's somewhat right about real life. After all, he specified BBs, which DID use AA. Of course, it should have been past tense since there are no more BBs in service. And, in real life, that AA was never adequate to stop dedicated bombing attacks without . . . escorts.
[/QUOTE]I agree in the use of aa against the bombers, but who want to show that are a skilled bb's player shouldn't use aa to shootdown scouts because a skilled bb's player can fight even if the enemy have it in their sight

Dario1971

abyheart]
ario1971]
abyheart]
ario1971]
_qv_y]
i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Then SS would come on surface pop smoke and go underwater again for another 2 minutes plus. Then CV can just run bombers since won't have any fighters and aa anymore. Yea sure sounds like a good plan to mess the game up even more. 
[/QUOTE]then we agree in let the things like are now, not smoke limitation and not remove escorts, isn't it?
[/QUOTE]Don't be sensitive please. Read it again, i'm talking about SS to xqvy fella. If you agree no smoke limit then you're special kind of player... 
[/QUOTE]perhaps you want to give it an unfair advantage to the bombers but I not

x_qv_y

ario1971]
_qv_y]
i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Your logic is terribly flawed... but i believe you've already made that more than obvious.

Dario1971

_qv_y]
ario1971]
_qv_y]
i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Your logic is terribly flawed... but i believe you've already made that more than obvious.
[/QUOTE]If to want fair battle is wrong I prefer be wrong

dampre

E=Dario1971]
_qv_y]
ario1971]
_qv_y]
i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Your logic is terribly flawed... but i believe you've already made that more than obvious.
[/QUOTE]If to want fair battle is wrong I prefer be wrong
[/QUOTE]You want a fair battle? Why do you always retreat when you are losing?[QUOT

Dario1971

ampre]
E=Dario1971]
_qv_y]
ario1971]
_qv_y]
i think we need to remove aa escorts. it gives battleships and cv's unfair advantages that shouldnt be allowed. people rely on there escort's to contribute to the team since they have no ability to do anything but drive around and pop a random shot off here and there.... not gonna mention anyone in particular.....
[/QUOTE]If remove escorts then it should be removed ss and bombers too, cause without  the escorts bbs can't detect ss and/or defend theirself of the bombers.
[/QUOTE]Your logic is terribly flawed... but i believe you've already made that more than obvious.
[/QUOTE]If to want fair battle is wrong I prefer be wrong
[/QUOTE]You want a fair battle? Why do you always retreat when you are losing?[QUOT
[/QUOTE]sometimes appear people that do not understand the concept of fair play and to that kind of people I deny them the experience

barryaxl

* Bastó sólo 1 vez para ver la forma en la que Zatti se divertia hundiendo con HH para tener mas cuidado al momento de su resheo y partirlo antes que empiece con su limpieza.* El humo es utilizado para resolver el problema de inutiles en CVs que sólo se dedican a torpedear o bombardear o para algún rusheo; sería tonto quitar esa forma de ataque-defensa.* Si tienes AA en tu BB, puedes observar claramente en cualquier batalla que los BBs con AA estan 2, 3 ,4 lineas detrás de los BB que juegan a rango dándole ventaja al enemigo que puede estar rusheando y esperar tener una batalla justa entre 3 vs 1 mientras tus 2 compañeros se divierten derribando aviones y viendo como los pedazos de tu BB salen por la ionosfera, asi seas o pretendas ser como Barry no lo harás.* La solución de tu incomodidad al igual que la mia a los escort es tan sencilla; Existe una room donde te dice "quieres escort o no" y puedes crear una habitación sin escort y solucionado el problema.El criterio y sentido común es lo que falta en muchos jugadores, pensando sólo en ganar expertos para sus marinos no importando si ganan o pierden.Una ultima solución si vez que estas en desventaja contra 2 BBs enemigos bombarderos, torpederos y de yapa un SS aplica la técnica milenaria "CTRL + ALT + DEL" y solucionas el problema.